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CoushattaKid
07-22-2009, 09:40 PM
On the Soaring Eagle website this guy (Earnest C.) is shown winning 25 JACKPOTS on ONE day... July, 14th, 2009!

Sometimes he smiles beautifully and in other pictures he looks like he could kill you (if looks could kill), and he has just won a JACKPOT on a slot!

What in the hell is going on?

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?date=7-1-2009

Deb
07-22-2009, 09:56 PM
On the Soaring Eagle website this guy (Earnest C.) is shown winning 25 JACKPOTS on ONE day... July, 14th, 2009!

Sometimes he smiles beautifully and in other pictures he looks like he could kill you (if looks could kill), and he has just won a JACKPOT on a slot!

What in the hell is going on?

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?date=7-1-2009
hmmm, something fishy is going on Coushatta!

Flushed
07-22-2009, 10:14 PM
All I have to say is look at the denom of the machines, just think wins that come around once in a while on a 25cent-$1 machine, when they come on the 15 or $25 machine its probably going to be a hand payout (over 1200) which is what gets on the site, but than again its weird as he does have some big ones.

MizSlotQueen
07-22-2009, 10:27 PM
All of a sudden he is splitting 24 grand with Maria. Where was she the rest of the day? :confused: (He looks like someone slipped him a roofie in that shot)

The poor guy is one of the lease photogenic people on the planet.

I agree that it sounds more than a little fishy. No one is that lucky. And no machines are that loose.

If I were Soaring Eagle I'd only allow one or maybe two win postings per person. Otherwise it just smacks of "WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?!" :p

1ArmedPandit
07-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Coushatta Kid,

I was going to start this exact same thread, you beat me to it...LOL!! I couldn't believe when I visited the site last night that guy Earnest won 28 jackpots.

NO KIDDING... 28, I counted it . ALL of them on July 12 and 14 2009, HOW is it possible????? Is anyone in that area, can they check it out?

I think thats a really fast one that casino is pulling on its patrons. I for one do NOT believe it, as it is statistically impossible, and I will pull a time-series math model if someone pushes me.... :mad:

Yknow what. I'm gonna report that casino the my local BBB. and that guy too.

Deb
07-22-2009, 10:42 PM
Coushatta Kid,

I was going to start this exact same thread, you beat me to it...LOL!! I couldn't believe when I visited the site last night that guy Earnest won 28 jackpots.

NO KIDDING... 28, I counted it . ALL of them on July 12 and 14 2009, HOW is it possible????? Is anyone in that area, can they check it out?

I think thats a really fast one that casino is pulling on its patrons. I for one do NOT believe it, as it is statistically impossible, and I will pull a time-series math model if someone pushes me.... :mad:

Yknow what. I'm gonna report that casino the my local BBB. and that guy too. Please do the math on this because we are all slot players and have had our really good days and bad days but this is ridiculous. I agree with Miz (about Maria) what is that all about? I am sorry but something here is very wrong. Whether statistics pan out or not. These people are either plants or something but I would think that IF the casino were to use plants to pose as winners they would be different people not the same so I don't think that is the case. If this guy is winning constantly and is at that casino so often, he need GA really bad!

SSherman
07-22-2009, 10:42 PM
OMG--No offense to the guy--but he looks high in every shot! yikes.......or maybe he has been up for days winning.......HAHAHAHAHA

CoushattaKid
07-22-2009, 10:44 PM
hmmm, something fishy is going on Coushatta!

Yep! I just find it really hard to believe! I just added up his one day winnings and it came to $78,750.

One day and 25 W2-G forms! That's more than 1 win an hour and that's if he played 24 hours straight!

That would be like hit a JACKPOT... WAIT for the W2-G form to be processed... WIN another... WAIT for the W2-G form to be processed... WIN another, etc...

When would he have time to lose?! :cool:

maxgirl
07-22-2009, 10:53 PM
You would think the casinio would realize that it looks fake after that many wins even if it were possible, still why post more them just a couple pictures. Someone who goes to that casino on this site should email them and tell them they are the TALK of the SLOT FORUMS, and they seem suspect:rolleyes:

MizSlotQueen
07-22-2009, 10:58 PM
You would think the casinio would realize that it looks fake after that many wins even if it were possible, still why post more them just a couple pictures. Someone who goes to that casino on this site should email them and tell them they are the TALK of the SLOT FORUMS, and they seem suspect:rolleyes:

Good idea, Maxgirl. I will write to them as soon as I get off the phone. I'm talking to the airlines, booking travel to Soaring Eagle, ASAP. :D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

ardee
07-23-2009, 01:01 AM
Hey Guys, there is really nothing strange going on here, as a matter of fact, I do not think he did that well and might not have even gotten ahead. If you are playing a 25 dollar slot which could be 50 dollars a spin, you sure as heck better get a hand pay often, like every 24 spins and you know that did not happen.

This guy probably averaged 25 dollars a spin with about 20 spins a minute, that's 500 dollars per minute. If he played for 5 hours he could have easily put $150,000 in the slots. Even with $80,000 in hand pays and other smaller wins, he probably did not get ahead much and maybe not any.

Slot Addict
07-23-2009, 01:08 AM
Okay, I agree with you all BUT I did notice in June he was $54,000 = 18,000 + 36,000. Maybe he started playing more frequently and only higher denominations with his $54,000 grand? The only thing I can think of, but I do agree with you all.

ardee
07-23-2009, 01:09 AM
Hey Guys, there is really nothing strange going on here, as a matter of fact, I do not think he did that well and might not have even gotten ahead. If you are playing a 25 dollar slot which could be 50 dollars a spin, you sure as heck better get a hand pay often, like every 24 spins and you know that did not happen.

This guy probably averaged 25 dollars a spin with about 20 spins a minute, that's 500 dollars per minute. If he played for 5 hours he could have easily put $150,000 in the slots. Even with $80,000 in hand pays and other smaller wins, he probably did not get ahead much and maybe not any.

I went back and looked at the prior month and saw that Ernest C won two large jackpots, and was most likely ahead on that trip. He went back in July and tried again, hit two good wins and then a bunch of barely handpays. That is probably why he is not smiling, he put a lot of his wins back in and got a bunch of low handpays on his 25 to 50 dollar spins.

CoushattaKid
07-23-2009, 01:23 AM
That is probably why he is not smiling
http://personal-computer-tutor.com/abc2/images/LAUGHING%20OUT%20LOUD%2010-24-2001.gif

maxgirl
07-23-2009, 01:51 AM
Good idea, Maxgirl. I will write to them as soon as I get off the phone. I'm talking to the airlines, booking travel to Soaring Eagle, ASAP. :D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Give them a peice of your mind when you get there, but wait till after your winners pic:D we dont want you looking all stressed out like Earnest:eek:

maxgirl
07-23-2009, 01:56 AM
I went back and looked at the prior month and saw that Ernest C won two large jackpots, and was most likely ahead on that trip. He went back in July and tried again, hit two good wins and then a bunch of barely handpays. That is probably why he is not smiling, he put a lot of his wins back in and got a bunch of low handpays on his 25 to 50 dollar spins.

Heck, Ardee does better than that on nickels! right?

MizSlotQueen
07-23-2009, 02:47 AM
Was he playing $25 and $50 slots? I saw $10 ones, but didn't make out the larger denoms.

I am interested that he won on Big Times Pay, my all time boring bust of a slot.

oleslotguy
07-23-2009, 12:52 PM
[QUOTE=1ArmedPandit;15702]Coushatta Kid,

I was going to start this exact same thread, you beat me to it...LOL!! I couldn't believe when I visited the site last night that guy Earnest won 28 jackpots.

NO KIDDING... 28, I counted it . ALL of them on July 12 and 14 2009, HOW is it possible????? Is anyone in that area, can they check it out?

I think thats a really fast one that casino is pulling on its patrons. I for one do NOT believe it, as it is statistically impossible, and I will pull a time-series math model if someone pushes me.... :mad:

Yknow what. I'm gonna report that casino the my local BBB. and that guy too.[/QUOTE

Faking it....wouldn't that be false advertising? Being a soverign nation they can prolly do whatever they want so long as the NIGC has no problem with it, and no rule to cover it under the IGRA, or their compact with MI.

Anyone in the area...that's where we go all the time, and I have checked the HighStakes area. Mornings 7:30-12 there are few to no players up there.

My take on it is in another thread.

oleslotguy
07-23-2009, 12:57 PM
You would think the casinio would realize that it looks fake after that many wins even if it were possible, still why post more them just a couple pictures. Someone who goes to that casino on this site should email them and tell them they are the TALK of the SLOT FORUMS, and they seem suspect:rolleyes:

No mailing, I'll talk to my slot host while we're there. Hey, maybe I'll printout some of these threads for him:D

oleslotguy
07-23-2009, 01:03 PM
Good idea, Maxgirl. I will write to them as soon as I get off the phone. I'm talking to the airlines, booking travel to Soaring Eagle, ASAP. :D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Wait,wait,wait! If you book for July 29,30, DW, son, grandson and friends, and I will be there from 2pm the 29th-11am the 30th.;) You'll find me in the HighStakes area if I can refinance the house b/4 then. Easy to find me....the ole skinny guy w/1/8th inch long grey hair playing the 1 line, 2 coin slots.

oleslotguy
07-23-2009, 01:17 PM
OMG--No offense to the guy--but he looks high in every shot! yikes.......or maybe he has been up for days winning.......HAHAHAHAHA

"looks high in every shot".....Maybe that's how they get him to pose?:rolleyes: :D

oleslotguy
07-23-2009, 01:20 PM
Was he playing $25 and $50 slots? I saw $10 ones, but didn't make out the larger denoms.

I am interested that he won on Big Times Pay, my all time boring bust of a slot.

and 1 of Randy P.'s favs.:)

maxgirl
07-24-2009, 06:19 AM
Wait,wait,wait! If you book for July 29,30, DW, son, grandson and friends, and I will be there from 2pm the 29th-11am the 30th.;) You'll find me in the HighStakes area if I can refinance the house b/4 then. Easy to find me....the ole skinny guy w/1/8th inch long grey hair playing the 1 line, 2 coin slots.

Refi the house? sounds like a fabulous ideal:D

Kyle
07-24-2009, 07:21 AM
Do the math here. Say one of his $25 wins is $2,000. Say it was $50/spin. Simple math says that he won 40x his bet, or on a .20 bet is is $8. Does it really seem so amazing now?

Yes, with the big jackpots he was probably ahead. But the Casino is making it look like this was an incredible streak, when in fact it was not. Nice wins? Yes. Unbelievable? Nahhh.

oleslotguy
07-24-2009, 09:07 AM
Do the math here. Say one of his $25 wins is $2,000. Say it was $50/spin. Simple math says that he won 40x his bet, or on a .20 bet is is $8. Does it really seem so amazing now?

Yes, with the big jackpots he was probably ahead. But the Casino is making it look like this was an incredible streak, when in fact it was not. Nice wins? Yes. Unbelievable? Nahhh.

Now maybe the SE hasn't changed the RTP in high stakes, but you'd have a tough time on all their other machines getting that many winning spins. Used to go there once a week....now it's once a month. Heck, I can do better with our MI Charity gamimg pulltabs, and they only have a 75% RTP.

casinoguy
07-27-2009, 04:46 PM
I agree with ardee..I;m sure the guy put all his winnings back and then some...

oleslotguy
07-28-2009, 12:34 PM
I agree with ardee..I;m sure the guy put all his winnings back and then some...

I will have to second that, and I'll have a chat with my slot host about their pics.

inaminute
08-04-2009, 10:28 AM
On the Soaring Eagle website this guy (Earnest C.) is shown winning 25 JACKPOTS on ONE day... July, 14th, 2009!

Sometimes he smiles beautifully and in other pictures he looks like he could kill you (if looks could kill), and he has just won a JACKPOT on a slot!

What in the hell is going on?

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?date=7-1-2009

Was he using a player's card?

Clearly ol' Earnest needs some help?

A ballpark guess is that he could burn 4k to 6k per hour at some of those denoms, give or take a thousand or two.

I added both days hand pays and came up with over 100k. Must have skipped the 13th, unlucky I guess. Depending on how many hours he played, I'm going to guess he cleared up to 40k max, possibly played near even, maybe he did lose. Where I play you can refuse your picture to be used in publicity because, after all, it is a casino and without privacy of patrons, a customer could lose their job, family, or friends, not just their money.

I suggest he stay out of the photos, if that's an option and get some help.

One of the more thought-provoking threads I've seen in a long time.

Thanks for posting it.

momfish
08-04-2009, 12:36 PM
Hi everyone, I just went on that site and noticed something odd. In one photo Earnest is sitting in front of the machines In the Money and Triple Stars. But look at the winner paid box...it is blank!! I think Earnest is sitting in front of machines that have been reset to show a win! I live near Hollywood slots in Bangor and every morning when they open all the machines show winning handsEarnest ticked me off enough so I had to register and post! I have been enjoying all of your posts and hope to contribute more in the future.

casinoguy
08-04-2009, 05:36 PM
Hi everyone, I just went on that site and noticed something odd. In one photo Earnest is sitting in front of the machines In the Money and Triple Stars. But look at the winner paid box...it is blank!! I think Earnest is sitting in front of machines that have been reset to show a win! I live near Hollywood slots in Bangor and every morning when they open all the machines show winning handsEarnest ticked me off enough so I had to register and post! I have been enjoying all of your posts and hope to contribute more in the future.

It also might be that the casinos have the player hit again so it doesn't show a win...Casinos are afraid people won't play machine if someone has won big on it...Around my area they have you push the button again and that could be what happened to ernest[especially after all those wins]

1ArmedPandit
08-04-2009, 06:25 PM
I live near Hollywood slots in Bangor and every morning when they open all the machines show winning hands

What does it mean, "when they open all the machines show winning hands"?

:confused:

momfish
08-04-2009, 08:36 PM
The slots place in Bangor is not open 24 hours per day. Therefore when they open in the morning all the machines are set to show a big win. Perhaps it's because they test them, I don't know.

The Shamus
08-06-2009, 03:22 AM
I trust Ardee's instincts on this one. He had two huge hauls in June ... and be burned it all in July. Let's see if he shows up in August!

/\/\/\/\ the Shamus /\/\/\/\

JoeyAnyc
08-06-2009, 05:23 AM
All I have to say is look at the denom of the machines, just think wins that come around once in a while on a 25cent-$1 machine, when they come on the 15 or $25 machine its probably going to be a hand payout (over 1200) which is what gets on the site, but than again its weird as he does have some big ones.

He's playing $25 machines. So anything that hits for over 48 credits, will be a hand pay. So yes, this is believable.

Charleston
08-10-2009, 03:05 PM
momfish - I'm with you. That whole thing was so hoaky I had to register and send a comment also. I too have been reading the posts for months wanting to join. Did you also notice he has the same thing on in each picture?

CoushattaKid
08-10-2009, 03:15 PM
momfish - I'm with you. That whole thing was so hoaky I had to register and send a comment also. I too have been reading the posts for months wanting to join. Did you also notice he has the same thing on in each picture?

"The same thing on each picture?"

Please don't make me look at his pictures again to see what your talking about! I find his image so disturbing!

casinoguy
08-10-2009, 03:35 PM
momfish - I'm with you. That whole thing was so hoaky I had to register and send a comment also. I too have been reading the posts for months wanting to join. Did you also notice he has the same thing on in each picture?



He is wearing the same outfit because he won all those times[28,I believe]all in the same day..

CoushattaKid
08-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Earnest is back with a couple of really big wins this month of August, 2009. Here he is with a HUGE win of $68,000+ on what must be a $100 machine! Man alive! Does he ever look happy!

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1372

1ArmedPandit
08-19-2009, 11:01 PM
So they are saying, he won today itself, Aug. 19th, the day isn't even over yet, and their staff already took Eanest's mugshot, AND their web admin quickly uploaded it to their website for the whole wide world to see??????????

Man, they must have the most sophisticated and up-to-date IT department any casino could ever buy.

I still don't buy it, but thats just me.

Deb
08-19-2009, 11:12 PM
So they are saying, he won today itself, Aug. 19th, the day isn't even over yet, and their staff already took Eanest's mugshot, AND their web admin quickly uploaded it to their website for the whole wide world to see??????????

Man, they must have the most sophisticated and up-to-date IT department any casino could ever buy.

I still don't buy it, but thats just me.

Why in the heck would they post this so quickly? I mean come on. Something very fishy is going on here. I showed my husband this thread and he said Earnest is one of to things a dealer (not a casino card dealer) or a pimp.
Oleslotguy I believe is at SE as we are talking about this so I wonder if he could lend some information!

ardee
08-20-2009, 12:35 AM
Why in the heck would they post this so quickly? I mean come on. Something very fishy is going on here. I showed my husband this thread and he said Earnest is one of to things a dealer (not a casino card dealer) or a pimp.
Oleslotguy I believe is at SE as we are talking about this so I wonder if he could lend some information!

I think a group of us just need to go up there and see what is going on.

From experience I am sure that Ernest C is putting some good numbers in the machines and getting good payouts. I would love to watch him and just see how well he does.

Maybe it is a money laundering thing.

ardee
08-20-2009, 12:36 AM
A round trip ticket into Detroit is cheap, but I am not thrilled about having to drive 2 hours to get there.

MizSlotQueen
08-20-2009, 12:39 AM
Awww, but doesn't our old friend Randy P look good! That a new shirt?

We should start a fan club.

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1366

Porkchop Express
08-20-2009, 01:02 AM
http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1352

That's a happy face for winning 17K.

Deb
08-20-2009, 01:03 AM
http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1352

That's a happy face for winning 17K.
Looks like she was playing Earnest's Crystal 7's machine too.
Gosh this just keeps getting weirder and weirdo doesn't it?

Patricia
08-20-2009, 01:13 AM
Oh come on. Do those people at that casino think we're all stupid? Ridiculous.

Deb
08-20-2009, 02:09 AM
Please see my post under the Earnest thread...

maxgirl
08-20-2009, 02:13 AM
Earnest is back with a couple of really big wins this month of August, 2009. Here he is with a HUGE win of $68,000+ on what must be a $100 machine! Man alive! Does he ever look happy!

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1372

he is still not even with his losses:D

maxgirl
08-20-2009, 02:16 AM
http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1352

That's a happy face for winning 17K.

Ok retracting the claws............... I hate that site, makes me jealous:D

maxgirl
08-20-2009, 02:19 AM
Looks like she was playing Earnest's Crystal 7's machine too.
Gosh this just keeps getting weirder and weirdo doesn't it?

if these wins are true, the rest of the casino is probably tighter then H to the L for the majority of players.

inaminute
08-20-2009, 03:17 AM
We don't have payouts like that at the 2 tribal casinos nearby. I've asked why they don't update the winner's site at Tulalip in WA. First of all, like I suggested Earnest do if it's an option there, you can refuse your picture for use in publicity and they will still offer you a pic for your personal collection. Secondly, I've been told by many employees that they average 30 hand pays per day. but these are almost always under $5000, and more typically between $1200 and $3000. We have maybe 1, that's right 1 JP per year over $100,000 and it's always on the 3 cent, max $2.70 I think, Canoe Cash. Other than that 1 bank of 6 machines, the only other progressive in the building that will climb to the $50,000 range is the 5th reel of the 2 cent Hot Shot Progressive, max bet $4, an 8 machine bank.

The video poker progressives will go as high as $20,000 rarely.

Maybe this should be on the "every 11 second" thread...

BTW, Tulalip has 2,000 machines and their 30 handpays per day would equal 1 every 48 minutes, which seems about right for them.

CoushattaKid
08-20-2009, 03:50 AM
Maybe it is a money laundering thing.

You know, Ardee, that has occurred to me before!

A slot would be the perfect mechanism to launder money!

http://www.voipphilipines.com/images/img_remittance.jpg

oleslotguy
08-20-2009, 11:30 AM
Why in the heck would they post this so quickly? I mean come on. Something very fishy is going on here. I showed my husband this thread and he said Earnest is one of to things a dealer (not a casino card dealer) or a pimp.
Oleslotguy I believe is at SE as we are talking about this so I wonder if he could lend some information!

DW and I were there about 7hrs, 6:45-1:30 and didn't see a single handpay. I even ask some other players, and they had seen 0 also. But then we were NOT in the HL section, where I think they take care of winners right up there, and don't have to go to the cage to get paid and we wouldn't see 'em. The faster you pay the more they can play. They're not gonna hold up these HL people any longer then possible.

On a side note that section was next to MT of players. You can see up there (raised section) from the main floor.

oleslotguy
08-20-2009, 11:32 AM
A round trip ticket into Detroit is cheap, but I am not thrilled about having to drive 2 hours to get there.

Prolly closer to 3-1/2-4hrs. from Detroit. Is all e-way though.

oleslotguy
08-20-2009, 11:35 AM
if these wins are true, the rest of the casino is probably tighter then H to the L for the majority of players.

Maxgirl, you got that RIGHT. Use to be a decent place to play. Now it's :(

oleslotguy
08-20-2009, 11:38 AM
You know, Ardee, that has occurred to me before!

A slot would be the perfect mechanism to launder money!

http://www.voipphilipines.com/images/img_remittance.jpg

You know who enforces things in NA casinos? The FBI:eek: They're always on the job at these casinos.

CoushattaKid
08-20-2009, 06:44 PM
You know who enforces things in NA casinos? The FBI:eek: They're always on the job at these casinos.

"Paranoia strikes deep!
Into your life it will creep!
It starts when you're always afraid!
Step outta line...
The Man comes and takes you away!"

Buffalo Springfield

http://beatcrave.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/bs_brm_0206091.jpg

inaminute
08-20-2009, 11:43 PM
From "Retospective", next track????

CoushattaKid
08-21-2009, 04:12 AM
From "Retospective", next track????

Unbelievable great stuff!

Here is your answer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61zyJru4QM

Deb
08-21-2009, 04:45 AM
Love that song! Thanks Coushatta!

inaminute
08-21-2009, 05:20 AM
thanks for that!!

all controversy is shelved....for a few seconds anyway

abbycute
08-25-2009, 06:33 AM
when i watch randy p play he always plays a machine that u can either win by bettinf 2- 5's or by betting 2-10's and he always plays the 2 -10's i am just waiting to see if either ernest or randy are going to start playing the 50 and the 100' dollar slots.

amel38
05-13-2010, 05:26 PM
It seems to me that I am most likely to win or have better payoffs not using the players card. Does anyone else feel like this or is it just my imagination. I do know that your players card contains a lot of information because that is how they figure out your comps.

BigDaddy
05-13-2010, 05:35 PM
It seems to me that I am most likely to win or have better payoffs not using the players card. Does anyone else feel like this or is it just my imagination. I do know that your players card contains a lot of information because that is how they figure out your comps.
I find that I actually win more when I do use my card, plus it tracks all my wins/losses so at the end of the year, I can use that as my write off for tax purposes... Saved my butt a few times...:)

Yatesnonose
05-13-2010, 05:52 PM
My personal favorite: HERE (http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/winners/index.htm?id=1932)

fourfours
05-13-2010, 06:39 PM
It seems to me that I am most likely to win or have better payoffs not using the players card. Does anyone else feel like this or is it just my imagination. I do know that your players card contains a lot of information because that is how they figure out your comps.

complete imagination. players card tracking and gaming software are two seperate things. the machine does not care who is playing it and putting your card in, or not, makes absolutely no difference...

The Outlaw 777
05-14-2010, 12:16 AM
he wins cause he won a huge jackpot...i dunno how much but his using that money and doing it max..and if u see he never plays pennys or 5 cents one...he goes for the huge ones 10$ and up...and he max bet all the time maybe $200 dollars a spin...so thats possible that he wins all the time..and when he looks like he could kill u its cause he lost more on that machine ...just 2 get like 1 grand win when he probably spend 10 grand......lol.....ill b the same !!later people

JesterPete
05-14-2010, 01:51 AM
It seems to me that I am most likely to win or have better payoffs not using the players card. Does anyone else feel like this or is it just my imagination. I do know that your players card contains a lot of information because that is how they figure out your comps.

Yes, you should never use your card.

Pete

JesterPete
05-14-2010, 01:52 AM
I find that I actually win more when I do use my card, plus it tracks all my wins/losses so at the end of the year, I can use that as my write off for tax purposes... Saved my butt a few times...:)

Yes, you should always use your card.

Pete

JPParty-man
05-14-2010, 03:04 AM
Haha Pete!! You're awesome!!

slh
05-14-2010, 03:49 AM
Yes, you should always use your card.

Pete

You crack me up.....thanks for the laugh!

Rick2006
01-23-2013, 04:05 AM
Yeah, I have to agree with some of the other postings - this is not so unusual if he's a high limit player. Specially if he spent those 2 days just sitting in front of the machines for 8+ hours.

My mom plays $5 slots usually 3 to 5 coins at a time (so $15 to $25 a spin), and will have 5-10 hand-pays a day at least once during a 4-5 day vegas trip. A 2 hand-pay day would be a real money loser. A 5 hand-pay day would be nearly even. A 10+ hand-pay day would be a winner. Obviously it depends on the size of the hand-pays, but when playing $25/spin, a $1300 hand-pay does not last so long. Keep in mind, if you're playing $25/spin, any hit over 50x is gonna be a hand-pay. So, imagine going through a day and never getting a 50x hit! (Add to that the fact that $5 and $25 machines have better payback percents, and you get an increased incidence of hand-pays from what you'd expect).

All this to say, I'm sure this guy had 50k of money into the machine over the course of his stay. Hopefully he walked out with 30k+ in profits, but its even possible he played it all back

oleslotguy
01-23-2013, 11:57 AM
The last two times I saw him, he wasn't even in the HL room. Hardly anyone ever is.

burgetrn
01-23-2013, 12:30 PM
Laundering drug money maybe? Looks like he has many wins every month but he has to be losing overall. However, that would be a small price to pay to legitimize the funds.

derek33
01-23-2013, 12:45 PM
Laundering drug money maybe? Looks like he has many wins every month but he has to be losing overall. However, that would be a small price to pay to legitimize the funds.


Earnest won the lottery.....that is why he has a huge bankroll.

burgetrn
01-23-2013, 07:23 PM
that makes sense. hope hes not like that woman in tampa that won 14 million at hard rock and lost it all back. i admit it must be fun though.

derek33
01-23-2013, 08:29 PM
You know I think I am wrong....I guess because I saw him on TLC How the Lottery Changed my Life, I assumed he had won the lottery. Googling Earnest, I have found nothing about him winning the lottery. I guess he has made his money from the suckers who buy his book.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXWkWDniv48


a little more in depth interview with Earnest...

http://www.cyinterview.com/2012/01/earnest-cobb-the-self-professed-multimillion-dollar-slot-machine-winner-writes-book-on-winning-big-at-the-old-one-arm-bandit-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/

I personally don't like the man. I was friend with him on Facebook, but got tired of him commenting that people should play the higher denominations with max bet with no regard to people finances. There are a lot of gullible and naive people out there and telling them to bet $25+ a spin is very reckless advice to people who cannot afford to spend that kind of money.


Ernest FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/theslotguru?ref=ts&fref=ts

jjgrand
01-24-2013, 02:59 AM
What he does is real. I know a few people at a few casinos that do this in high limit. It's really no different from anyone else on this board. Him getting handpays is the same as going into a good bonus on a penny slot. He just managed to get some major paydays that allow him to play on, buy some nice things, and spread the wealth with fellow gamblers. It won't work for most of us because we love to "play" too much and will give a lot back to the machine. Check out this casino
http://www.cachecreek.com/gaming/winners/ If you look at the jackpots you would wonder how the hell they even stay in business and why they don't yank those machines clean off the floor. Look on the second page of winners you will see a man named Neal H. he is holding a big check for $51k if you were to look at all the pages, you will see that he wins $50k so many times you will lose count...and pretty much on the same damn machines...he has a few wins of $250k and I even think there is one for $750k...and not only do they keep those machines there...but other people get on the same 2 or three machines and get $50k out of them too. In fact the same machines throughout the casino seem to pay over and over. I'm pretty sure this is not false advertising, because we have a new local here and they started posting wins on facebook...and sure enough when I visited the HL, I saw one of the people from the pictures that had won $22k and he was in there winning $6,500. And I could tell you the same about many other casinos. I plan to take about two paychecks out to cache creek some time this year and go ape$#it trying to get some of that Neal H. money, and then I want to go to the soaring eagle and get some of that Earnest C. money. Of coarse with my luck that will be the day they stop paying out.

oleslotguy
01-24-2013, 09:46 AM
Hi jj. The SE HL room lost 75% of their players 5 years ago. This is our 'local' and spend a lot of time all hours of the day/night there. That HL area is TOTALLY MT most of the time. Oh yeah, you do see a couple peeps in there now and again, but mostly MT.
The last two times I saw Ernest, he wasn't even in there, but playing .01 Enchanted Unicorns. Max coin of course. He's the only player I've ever seen that has his own parking place there. If you do come there to play HL, or anything....bring a big BR:)

regaleagle
01-24-2013, 01:21 PM
Looks to me like Ernest "learned" that he could make alot more money just becoming an "interesting person".....and then writing a book about his exploits. Not a bad ideology to get rich quick millions, huh? Whether he contrived it or not, that's what the end result is.....and he still gets to go for the big one at his selected casinos for fun. There's worse ways to live.

jjgrand
01-24-2013, 11:41 PM
Hi jj. The SE HL room lost 75% of their players 5 years ago. This is our 'local' and spend a lot of time all hours of the day/night there. That HL area is TOTALLY MT most of the time. Oh yeah, you do see a couple peeps in there now and again, but mostly MT.
The last two times I saw Ernest, he wasn't even in there, but playing .01 Enchanted Unicorns. Max coin of course. He's the only player I've ever seen that has his own parking place there. If you do come there to play HL, or anything....bring a big BR:)
He did have pictures of wins a couple of months ago and they were mostly on Enchanted Unicorn, Aliens, and another penny machine that I can't remember..I thought he was playing max bet on the nickel denom though. What do you mean MT most of the time? and why did they lose so many players?

oleslotguy
01-26-2013, 11:38 AM
He did have pictures of wins a couple of months ago and they were mostly on Enchanted Unicorn, Aliens, and another penny machine that I can't remember..I thought he was playing max bet on the nickel denom though. What do you mean MT most of the time? and why did they lose so many players?

Hi jj. They changed nearly ALL of their machines. Prior to fall 2007 the SE was a great place to play/win. We USED to go 1-2 times a week. Now it's 1-2 a month. Don't think you can go back in the forum far enough to see the posts by randypsoaringeagle, but he did a LOT of explaining about he, his wife, and Ernest's wins/loses. BY MT, I mean there is no one in the HL area there. You could shoot a cannon through there, and not hit anyone. Randy P. is the one who explained the 75% loss in players. He does show up on their 'winners' page once in a while.
Their 'rating' by players is at 2.2 of 5. Seen at AmericanCasinoGuide. Only one in MI worse is GunLake casino.
All in all, it's a tough place to win. Oh sure, we've had good days too, but it's nothing lkie it was b/4 fall 07, and we've been going there since they first opened. They are one of the NA casinos that pays a per capita to tribal members, and as their income goes down, they still have to pay members the same.
PS: you're right it was nickles.

Jimgotkp
01-26-2013, 08:51 PM
Wow. I just saw that video on Ernest and I'm disappointed that he still rents a house while owning a $125K BMW. If I were him, I'd own a house to make sure that I have some asset to fall back on if slots get super tight and I run low on cash.

jjgrand
01-27-2013, 01:15 AM
Wow. I just saw that video on Ernest and I'm disappointed that he still rents a house while owning a $125K BMW. If I were him, I'd own a house to make sure that I have some asset to fall back on if slots get super tight and I run low on cash.
My brother and I were talking about that exact same thing last weekend. He was thinking that since you can't go to the bank and put down professional slot player as an occupation he would have trouble getting a mortgage. Maybe Earnest is in the position where he doesn't want to pay cash for the type of house he actually wants like he did the car. I think he said he gives away a few million out of his overall wins.

oleslotguy
01-27-2013, 11:04 AM
Wow. I just saw that video on Ernest and I'm disappointed that he still rents a house while owning a $125K BMW. If I were him, I'd own a house to make sure that I have some asset to fall back on if slots get super tight and I run low on cash.

His BMW is not the one he takes to the casino. Prolly doesn't want to put all the miles on it at near 300mi round trip. Odd, that he plays there when there are 3 casinos in his hometown, and another NA one closer then the SE. He has his own parking spot, so everbody knows when he's there. Many money people don't own their homes.

oleslotguy
01-27-2013, 11:07 AM
My brother and I were talking about that exact same thing last weekend. He was thinking that since you can't go to the bank and put down professional slot player as an occupation he would have trouble getting a mortgage. Maybe Earnest is in the position where he doesn't want to pay cash for the type of house he actually wants like he did the car. I think he said he gives away a few million out of his overall wins.

Oh, but he could put down author of his hugely sucsessful book.:)
"gives away a few million" ...heck, don't we all?:)

oleslotguy
01-27-2013, 11:13 AM
Wow. I just saw that video on Ernest and I'm disappointed that he still rents a house while owning a $125K BMW. If I were him, I'd own a house to make sure that I have some asset to fall back on if slots get super tight and I run low on cash.

What? They're not super tight now???? The only reason they're not tighter than they are is because they can't get programs that pay any less, and their compacts with the state have to meet either NV(75%), or NJ(83%) gaming laws.

ckait305
03-03-2013, 05:14 PM
Wind Creek Casino in Atmore,Al use to post there winners on their facebook page but they stopped cause people would complain about certain people hitting numerous jackpots in a day ...... I have only hit one jackpot in 3and a half years hubby had a good 2 day run when he hit 2 in a day and one the day before........... We both have had some near misses for huge amounts but just cant get tht last symbol to get right.otherwise, When they would post jackpots certain people would 30,40, sometimes 50 jackpots in a day for several hundreds of thousands of dollars but, I digress I wish we all could win everytime we go but its just not possible.

oleslotguy
03-04-2013, 12:28 PM
"it's just not possible"...It might, might that is, just be possible. BUT..are they truly 'winners'? That's is the big ?. Now Big Daddy has done well this year so far, and is honest about his losses, even though he may have had several HPs in a trip. Never see ppl on the 'winners' pages talking about their losses.