Hi Folks:

WMS Gaming has been improving their site a lot lately. Normally, none of the slot manufacturers publish payback percent and hit percentage numbers for the general public.

I just noticed, WMS gaming has published this information for many of their newer games available on their public website. It is downloadable in .PDF format. Personally ... I'm not sure this information is supposed to be available.

Link: http://www.wms.com/rotatingwild/

From this screen, select "Cascading Reels", "Wrap Around Pays" or "Money Burst". You can also download information on games like, "Houdini" and "High Speed" (new games). Click on "Click here to download fact sheets" -- it will load the PDF into your browser -- and you can save this on your machine.

This happened once on the Bally machine, and the information got moved to the secure section of the site, once this was found.

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If you like the type of information you see on the WMS "Sell Sheets" -- here are some more from "AC Coin". They are best known for IGT games such as "Slotto", "Bewitched" and "King of the Grill".

http://www.ac-coin.com/slots/default.html

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I have no idea what is going on ... but if you check some of the IGT sites ... like the BARCREST (subsiduary of IGT) site (think BEWITCHED. SHA NA NA)... you can get similar information on the PAR sheets for the machines. Perhaps there is a "change of heart" regarding what the slot players are allowed to see? However ... if you try to access the PAR sheets from other portions of the site, it will not let you (it advises you that you must log in) --- but this is only for industry types.

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The Shamus,

It seems that Barcrest website also asks for username and pass for downloading tech documents.

Have you managed to download IGT Par Sheets from Barcrest website?
I would be very thankful if you could help me getting them.

Thanks in advance and regards,

Rikelme

Hi Rikelme ... send me your email address, and I will pass the document along. I have a large .PDF file with the frequency of the bonus rounds, the average payout, etc. It seems like AC-COIN changed the link. Barcrest must have done something similar. These documents were all available for download on the public page at the time I posted.

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I have played some of these and want to comment but for some reason the server is not allowing posts....? I will try as best I can to comment.
Flower

The AC coin link is busted...

Send me a private message and I will pass the information along to you.

I would not be surprised if they took it down because they do not like regular slot players gaining too much insider knowledge.

I don't think the slot manufactures care if players know the payback percentages ... but the casinos certainly do not want you to know. If you knew one machine paid less than another over the long term -- it would be like playing a game marked, "sucker" on the top. Personally, I think the industry needs disclosure.


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