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Old 10-16-2008, 04:06 AM
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Default Can someone explain this comment from AC Coin?

There is a recently article about the new AC Coin machines which are being released soon: https://secure.globeadvisor.com/serv...0081015/NEW088

In the following paragraph, they state:
Wild Native Spirit(TM) -- Unleash the excitement of tribal gaming with Wild Native Spirit, a six-station community-style game featuring a three-reel, nine-line, max configurable tested IGT(R) pay table and a 30-day performance guarantee on all units. Standing nearly eight feet tall and seven feet wide, Wild Native Spirit grabs players' attention with a Native American influenced Big Roller bonus event and music to match.

My Question --- What is a 30-day performance guarantee?? I would think that machines would be warranteed for a certain amount of time --- but this is called a "performance guarantee". I have always wondered if new machines perform better in their first month of release. Although I consider this an irrational thought -- this comment was making me think. Any ideas from you "industry types"?

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Old 10-17-2008, 01:00 AM
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The new casino machines here seem to have settled down since they opened. I wonder if they could have that performance clause? I hope with all the technology that they don't mistreat their casino players. It would sadden me to think so. I always felt they would do well even if they do let the players win a little more. It might even help their bottom line in a bad economy. I wonder why they don't consider that?

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Old 10-17-2008, 06:37 PM
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The new casino machines here seem to have settled down since they opened. I wonder if they could have that performance clause? I hope with all the technology that they don't mistreat their casino players. It would sadden me to think so. I always felt they would do well even if they do let the players win a little more. It might even help their bottom line in a bad economy. I wonder why they don't consider that?

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Hi Flower:

I'm not sure about your local casino ... but with my casino, it is impossible to get the payback percentages the machines are set to. According to the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation, this is a secret -- part of a competitive advantage. If they gave out that information, and it was not as good as the New York State or Michigan State numbers, they might lose players ... so they keep it a secret.

So ... let's say you sit at a nickel machine ... it is set to pay back about 90% of what it takes in ... are you going to be able to notice if you sit at one that pays about 87%?? So ... the casinos are only going to raise the percentage if it is a law -- or if people stop going to a place because the payouts, or the comps, or the atmosphere is better some place else.

I think every machine could be required to have the payback percentage posted. That would definitely change the machines the players play. If I play blackjack, roulette or any other table game, I can find the odds in any book. The slot machines are basically a "black hole". Traditionally, the larger the denomination, the better the payback percentage. This should be wiped out -- because the casino is not handling coins ... the total bet can be the same regardless of denomination.

You are best off to stick to quarters or dollars --- but this is unaffordable on modern multi-line machines. However, playing nickels, you are betting the equivalent, but getting the crappy percentage. Frankly, I don't think the public really understands ... or there would be a larger outcry!

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