Winstar Casino

[justvisiting]

Some Casinos are more reputable then others and more honest I have spoken to many players about Winstar Casino in Oklahoma they have a reputation of not paying some players there Jackpots and have had a few appeal there decision to the Gaming Commission. Its interesting to know that the gaming commission
is also part of the tribe so most appeals if not all are lost my question is who regulates the regulators?? My advise is to always carry your cell phone and take pictures never leave your machine if there is any dispute of a win and take names of Casino employees that just may help you get your jackpot. WinStar is the largest of 11 Chickasaw casinos in Oklahoma, casinos that netted more than $91 million last year, according to tribal records.

Complaints about payment from Oklahoma Indian casinos are not rare.

Oklahoma Assistant Attorney General Bill Leader said he gets about a dozen complaints from gamblers at [Oklahoma] Indian casinos a year, but has no jurisdiction in resolving them.

Back in Las Vegas, Bill Thompson minces no words about the lesson behind this.

"You ought to have a sign on the border of Oklahoma: 'You're about to enter Oklahoma and gamble in a casino. Two things can happen. They are both bad. You can lose and you can win. You ain't getting paid,'" he said.

Last November, Rosemond received a summons from the Chickasaw tribal court in Oklahoma. He was the subject of a legal action, and in a declaratory judgment, the tribe said the case was closed.

News 8 asked the Chickasaw Nation how many casino malfunctions they have a year; they did not reply.

[laddysown]

I have been to Winstar Casino, or should I say this year, Lose Star Casino. It's pretty sad when your there and every one is bitching about how bad they are paying out! If you plan to win you had better walk in with at least $3000.00 and play the higher denomination machines to get maybe a cherry or two, and maybe just maybe you might get on top when they are cycling to pay! However, that's seldom for most players. The dollar machines are sucking money faster then you can put it in and the most disgusting thing is the Jackpots that they do pay are very low. I think it's a way to brainwash people into thinking that when they do pay a jackpot you feel lucky to get that! I can remember much better pay=outs last year! I have over heard many regulars talk about how bad they are paying, so people of Texas beware, and I agree with justvisiting you had better take your cell phone with you if you win! I know one person who recently went to dispute a jackpot with the Chickasaw Nation and not only did they not get it, but they found a reason to Ban this person from going at all! Sad, they will realize it when the regulars quit going. The way I see it you might as well just give them your donations of $ when you walk in the door, instead of having high hopes of hitting anything BIG!

[justvisiting]

Chickasaw Nation subsidiary prevails again in reopened Lone Star Park auction

05:42 PM CDT on Wednesday, October 28, 2009

A subsidiary of the Chickasaw Nation of Oklahoma has won the bid to purchase Lone Star Park in Grand Prairie, a bankruptcy court judge ruled Wednesday.
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Global Gaming LSP submitted the winning bid of $47.8 million at the second auction for the horse racing track. The city's Grand Prairie Sports Development Corp. owns the facility and the land; Global Gaming will operate the track.

Last month, the Ada, Okla.,-based tribe had submitted what it thought was the $27 million winning bid at the first auction, but the judge reopened the auction after ruling that Penn National Gaming Inc. had been excluded.

Magna Entertainment had operated the track until filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy last March.

The Chickasaw nation owns 15 gaming facilities – including the fifth-largest in the world, WinStar World Casino, just north of the Texas border in Thackerville, Okla.

[ZimsWhims]

I played at Winstar a couple of times when we lived in Texas. I would stop on my way home. I once won $100 on Reel 'em In on a 25 cent bet. That was my only winning story from there.

[Jdash41]

My two cents worth. My wife and I have been going to Winstar since it was first opened- and really tiny compared to now. We usually win enough to keep playing all day and that isn't easy at a lot of casinos we go to- even Winstar sometimes. We've had wins in the $700-$1500 range a few times but not normally of course. I think that's the nature of playing slots. If we wanted better odds we'd play cards or in Shreveport we'd play table games. We don't, we are slot addicts. I do know we have never had a problem being paid at Winstar.

We still go to Shreveport occasionally and this last summer we could not have lost money any faster at 4 different casinos so again, I think that's the nature of slots. We'll likely go back sometime too. We've played Choctaw in Durant Ok and Kiowa and Comanche casinos up past Wichita Falls in Oklahoma. We tend to go to Winstar though.

We've had some disastrous outings there as well not related to winning or losing. One time a bomb threat forced everyone into the parking lots late at night. I think that was last Christmas night. On Valentine's day last year they had a complete power outage. That was really not fun. Understaffed workers going machine by machine to figure out what they owed you followed by unbelievably long lines, of course, at cashier cages. But, stuff happens.

One post here that says Oklahoma has maybe a dozen complaints a year from their casinos caught my eye. There must be hundreds of Oklahoma casinos with millions of visitors in a year. I'd bet that a dozen complaints stacks up well with any state and any casinos- Indian or not.

One can find stories on machine malfunctions around the country too. The ones I really find amusing go like this. Some machine plainly says on it that the top pay out is say $2500. Or say it is 10 grand- whatever. So the machine goes haywire and displays that you just won a million. And they don't pay- well duh.

From another thread I saw a comment about only showing one winner on their website. Before that one they had a page of maybe 12 winners or so but they don't update the website well at all. When they had to 12 or so winners that page never got changed or updated until they went with that one winner- of a car I think it was. But that part of the website is useless for sure and I like seeing winners on casino websites. I wish they all did it and kept it current. The map they have on the website is still out of date after remodeling that is still going on. In the casino they at least used to have lots of winners displayed like a slide show on flat panel screens.

I do know one thing. If you really like slots just once you need to go inside Winstar just to see what almost 6000 machines in one place looks like. It is unbelievable.

[justvisiting]

well it is been nothing but a lose all year I have spoken to several people all have lost thousands there simply not paying out any thing close to percentage
I walked in there ounce a week and there isnt any crowds of people there sure making a bad name for there self I spoke to a security guy and he said there talking about closing down the new side during the week not enough players. There simply robbing everybody the bus traffic from Texas is dwindling down
and the word is out This tribe is more then greedy built one of the largest casino
ever but didnt invest in any management and customer service just take every cent they can. If you think im wrong just take a visit but dont say you wernt warned.

[oleslotguy]

well it is been nothing but a lose all year I have spoken to several people all have lost thousands there simply not paying out any thing close to percentage
I walked in there ounce a week and there isnt any crowds of people there sure making a bad name for there self I spoke to a security guy and he said there talking about closing down the new side during the week not enough players. There simply robbing everybody the bus traffic from Texas is dwindling down
and the word is out This tribe is more then greedy built one of the largest casino
ever but didnt invest in any management and customer service just take every cent they can. If you think im wrong just take a visit but dont say you wernt warned.

Hmmmm, sounds like they 'learned' something from the MI NA casinos. Particularly, the SouringEagle. Although I have never heard of a...* we're not paying* in MI. Not to say it hasn't happened though.

[1ArmedPandit]

You missed my Winstar trip report from early December (maybe it was in the wrong section)

http://www.slotmachinesforum.com/gen...not-so-ok.html

That place is nothing but a 'warehouse of slots'. So depressing you almost want to walk out right away. And this, at night... imagine how dreadful it must look in the daytime.

The only thing inviting about Winstar casino is the big neon sign in the parking lot. One should just take a look at it, turn around and head south again!

[lucky charm]

We have also visited WinStar several times in the last year. The machines were very tight. We can win more on cruise ships than at WinStar. It just wasn't enjoyable. We don't go into a casino expecting a life-changing win...we just go to have fun. However, when there are few wins and low or no paying bonus rounds, it is just not fun. We were there on a weekend, and it was very quiet--a lot of vacant machines. As someone posted earlier, it looked almost like a warehouse for slot machines. Not a lot of excitement. As a result, we will be in that area next week, but I will not go back it was just not fun!

[kh1958]

I was just there on Friday--the place was absolutely packed. The machines seemed to be paying off decently, and I came back a little ahead, as did my gambling partner (more ahead).